American's Lucas Martin discusses:
- Current
distribution strategy
- Rebuilding
the AA sales team
- Continuous
pricing and bundles
To say American Airlines has been through some sales and
distribution changes lately would be an understatement. After the carrier's
prior New Distribution Capability push in 2023 and early 2024 didn't pan out
quite the way it had been envisioned, the airline did a pivot about a year ago
to reembrace the corporate market and refocus its corporate sales team. To find
out where it is currently with its restructuring plan, BTN senior
transportation editor Donna M. Airoldi this month spoke with American SVP of sales
Lucas Martin, who joined the carrier in February after spending nearly a year
working on American's distribution pivot strategy while at Bain & Co.
Edited excerpts follow.
BTN: What did you learn during the past year working
on the American distribution change?
Lucas Martin: The main message is that the indirect
channel is very important, and there's numerous reasons why a business chooses
to go through the indirect channel. What does that mean for us? It means that
our focus needs to be on making sure we are present and we're competing
wherever our customers want to interact with our content. That was a little bit
what was different from the previous [NDC] accelerate strategy. … My main
message is that we need to meet our customers where they're at, and that means
we will embrace the [indirect] channel.
BTN: How has that embrace changed in the past 12
months?
Martin: We are renegotiating with all the
counterparties, whether that be agencies or corporate. We spent a lot of time
doing that. Second, a big part of this is rebuilding the team, and this is the
team to support our agency partners. It means having the team to be present at
industry events. It means ensuring our account ratios are where they should be
with our corporate customers. It means being present internationally, which
certainly is a growth area for us and where we continue to see resilience in
the business. And it means having the infrastructure for sales enablement to
make sure that all those frontline sales reps are as effective as they can be.
BTN: I heard you were hiring about 175 people for the
team. What will be their roles?
Martin: The first part is being present with our
agency partners. There's going to be a group led by Neil Guerin who is [over]
all our global agency accounts. There's a key part of our managed corporates,
Anthony Rader is the individual that's running that. There's going to be an SMB
program because there is certainly the managed revenue, but then there's the
unmanaged revenue. We need to be really thoughtful about the unmanaged piece as
well. Jacob Teplin is our leader of the AAdvantage Business segment. I'm really
excited about him. … He has a good perspective on all the evolutions of a small
business and the needs at those different life cycles of the business. Then
there's a group that's led by Paola Martinez, and she is really our sales
enablement. This is making sure that we are looking at the right data that all
the frontline salespeople have, the tools they need, both internal tools and
external tools. Also making sure that we're ready to support all the industry
events that we're back at. And then the international piece, like I mentioned
before, being present internationally, certainly a growth area, certainly a
place of resilience for us and making sure that we're addressing that as well.
As I think about the 175, that is the broad structure.
BTN: How far along are you in the hiring process, and
how will it affect corporate account management relationships?
Martin: Probably more than 20 to 25 percent have
either been hired and are going through onboarding or have already accepted and
they're going to start in the next 10 days or so. … I've been super impressed
with the team and what they've been able to do with the resources they've been
given. To say, here comes the calvary is exciting, but at the same time, I can
appreciate how disruptive that might feel to an account where they're like,
wait, I really love my account manager. They're so great. I have this relationship
with them. Don't change my account manager. … So, the other thing that we're
being super, super thoughtful about is what I'll call the account territories
for each of the sales reps. We’re being... very methodical on any account
transitions that would happen. Generally, if it's a good relationship, it's
working well, there's a bias [of] “don't fix what isn't broken” as we're
approaching this.
BTN: How will the new team compare in size and
function to what buyers may have been used to before all the changes?
Martin: It's a different world because we're going to
have new and better tools that will allow the team to be much more
productive. ... We have to think about it slightly differently from a
structure perspective, from a tools perspective, from an account management
perspective ... and the new technology that's available. Whether that be on
distribution or just honestly portals and AI, all of those different things,
the world is different. So, we need to take all those into account.
BTN: I also understand you restarted your corporate
forums. How is that going?
Martin: Basically, every six months we will have a
corporate forum and then I think of it as end of Q1, end of Q3 kind of
timeframes. Then in Q2 and Q4, we're doing corporate town halls to be able to
connect with our travelers. And one of the things that's super important to me
is having a pulse reading on our relationship with our corporate travel
managers, not only for us to talk about the new and exciting things that we're
doing at American to better support them and the changes that we're making, but
just where the relationship stands. So we continuously and from a longitudinal
basis run surveys with them to understand what's working, what's not working.
Like I said, we're changing a lot on a lot of different dimensions. That
feedback is really important to us. Candidly, I think one of the things that we
want to get better at and is a focus of mine is just listening to the
ecosystem, listening to our agency partners and listening to our corporate
travel managers, our customers, and hearing their feedback on where we can do
better.
BTN: During the NDC push, there also was a change to
who qualified for a managed corporate account at American. Has that changed
again?
Martin: If it's just on dollar spend, that's a bit of
a crude way of doing it. We're more sophisticated than that now. There is how
big the company is. There is do you book premium? Do you book main? Do you book
domestic? Do you book internationally? And then also what markets are you
flying? All of those things start to influence what kind of categories we start
to segment our populations on. We also segment on as a broad theme, we want to
be great partners to those that want to be great partners to us. That extends
to our corporate travelers as well. So those that are great partners to us,
then we have our way of defining exactly what that is. But yes, if they're
leaning into us, we are absolutely leaning into them. And that is something
that we're really committed to.
BTN: So where does American stand now with NDC?
Martin: It's the new technology, and there are a
number of benefits that come with this. Continuous pricing being one, the idea
that you can do unique bundles as another one, there's plenty out there. …
There is, I think more than ever, an interest from this sense of obligation
that the corporate travel managers feel to give their travelers the best
content. So, there is an interest in exactly how they get it, whether they do
it directly, do they do it connecting through aggregators or your historic or
legacy global distribution system players.
I think we do have a leading tech on this element and the
leading ability to service these tickets, but I view our role as whatever path
and whatever pace a corporate chooses to go down, we are there with our content
ready to compete, and we are kind of agnostic to exactly what it is. I think
there's lots of benefits, but again, the corporate travel manager might decide
that for whatever reason, a different path is best for them, and that's their
decision. Our reaction to that is we're just going to be there ready to serve
you and ready to compete in your chosen ecosystem.
BTN: Speaking of continuous pricing, you started down
that path recently. How far along are you?
Martin: It's not fully rolled out right now. The
current scope for continuous pricing is in the domestic business space. We're
currently working on international expansion, and that will be coming shortly.
But we're really excited about it. … By definition, continuous pricing is
better content from a pricing perspective than what you can get through the
EDIFACT channel.
BTN: What about bundles?
Martin: Each of the corporates in general have
different travel policies. So, a lot of what the account managers are doing now
that they have the capacity to have more of those discovery type conversations
with the corporates, it's just what really matters to them and how can we make
sure that we have the right content that is really exciting for them. And yes,
bundles are a part of that. Some of it is bundling some of our existing
products in a slightly different way. We're certainly exploring what are the
other new elements that we could add to bundles that corporates get really excited
about. But it is kind of a continuous conversation that we're having with each
of the corporates. … There's a lot of nuance to what many of these corporates
really care about. So, it's just our way of being able to meet them where
they're at and give them the content that their travelers are really looking
for.