Meetings Mavens Talk Shop
- How meeting managers can push toward compliance
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The industry changes
GDPR could precipitate
The European Union’s General Data Protection Regulation will
expand the role of data governance for corporate travel management and for
meetings and events management. Preparations need to happen now to be compliant by May 25, 2018,
when penalties—up to 4 percent of a company’s global revenue—will go into
effect. With so much data produced and processed for meetings, plus the
permissive data governance allowed in the U.S., meetings managers need to
understand the GDPR responsibilities and liabilities of not only their own
companies but also their data and technology partners. Also, it’s not just for
meetings and events in Europe. Any event that hosts EU citizens as participants
are subject to the rules and penalties.
GoldSpring Consulting’s Kevin Iwamoto and Lenos founder and
CEO Debbie Chong—whose background as an attorney specializing in e-commerce,
data privacy and other corporate matters informs her current role—talk with BTN
editor-in-chief Elizabeth West about how meeting managers can push toward
compliance and what industry changes GDPR could precipitate.
Credit: Illustration by Scott Pollack
BTN: To use a sports analogy, are meeting managers acting as the goalies
when it comes to data protection? If not, who needs to be managing this?
Debbie Chong: Meeting professionals have responded to
our concerns around privacy as, “That’s for someone else in the company to
worry about.” Data is not their area of expertise, and we understand that. But
GDPR is going to make [data privacy] everybody’s concern. Literally,
everybody’s. You might not need to understand the technical and all the legal
implications and details, but you’re going to need to know whether your systems
and processes are GDPR compliant. Because the stakes are high, in terms of
penalties, this is unlikely to be an assessment made by those who are operating
the system. This is now at a level [where] IT and the [data privacy officer]
will be more involved in decisions around [meetings technology] systems.
BTN: What role will meeting managers have, then?
Kevin Iwamoto: I’m educating meetings clients about
asking the right questions when sourcing and contracting. I still see contracts
that claim data protection governance is Safe Harbor. Well, that doesn’t exist
anymore. And even [contracts] that say that data is protected by Privacy
Shield. You can assume Privacy Shield will be replaced by GDPR. On the flip
side, if fulfilling your service level agreement necessitates a GDPR violation
or breach, you bet your suppliers will come back to you and ask for some form
of financial support [to cover penalties] because they are working for you. So
with meeting managers, it’s a matter of awareness and knowing now what some of
the issues are and bringing it up with the right people in the organization.
This is an issue that the C-level suite has to take on, and as Deb said, you’ll
see more data protection officers and IT getting involved in meetings.
BTN: What kind of data are we talking about? Will GDPR govern personally
identifiable information, or does it go beyond that?
Chong: GDPR compliance will have far-reaching
implications in how you handle the PII of your customers, partners, prospects
and employees. But it goes beyond PII. For example, [a meetings technology
company] is managing data that identifies our customers’ best salespeople, when
you talk about incentive [programs]. We know housing requirements or sleeping
arrangements. We know dietary issues of participants. All of this is extremely
confidential and sensitive client information. Meetings touch so much data,
both the data that I provide, as well as data that [a technology system]
possibly receives like my IP address, my search history, my Web track on my
location. [Marketers can also] infer data based on my online behaviors. [The
tech provider] might even share that data with a data mart … and other
companies might be buying [my data], even if it’s aggregate, to remarket other
products to me. Until now, these have been a privity of contract issue. Now,
they’re going to become a GDPR issue.
BTN: Participant behavior data is becoming such a big part of meetings and
events and often is provided to sponsors as part of the value of their
investment. Will GDPR interfere with this?
Iwamoto: [GDPR] will change the way meeting
participants opt in or provide permissions about how their data can be used. I
envision that everything will need a data [usage policy] and companies will
have to be more transparent about how the data is used.
Chong: Conference producers will have [to require]
sponsors to sign an agreement that they will not transfer that data and use it
except for the purposes agreed to by the person who provided the data. Under
GDPR, participants will also be able to revoke their consent to share data, and
that will add another task to data management. [Corporate clients] will need to
check the tires on their technology [to understand] whether the solution can
handle the permissions and proper opt-ins. We’re in the world of Big Data and
Fortune 500 companies. Technology systems need to handle data according to
these requirements so that no one has to perform manual tasks. This will
mitigate risk to a certain extent.
BTN: Who, exactly, is the liable party in terms of data privacy violations
under GDPR?
Chong: The data controller, so in this case the
corporate client. The controller has an agreement with the data processor,
which is the technology company. As a processor, I would not take any
instructions other than from the controller because the controller is
responsible under GDPR for managing the data, for treating it the way it’s
supposed to be treated.
BTN: Many companies access technology through the third party. Is the
liability still the same?
Chong: The data controller is still liable. For a
limited number of programs, we appreciate [that] licensing via a third party
makes sense. However, for a strategic meetings management program, we recommend
companies … go direct to a technology provider to ensure that there is privity
of contract to address any potential liabilities. The company data protection
officer, a requirement of GDPR compliance, will get involved in the selection
and management of technology in both scenarios.
BTN: Many companies have so-called “no-cost” SMMP agreements with third
parties, funded mainly by hotel commissions. They don’t have resources for a
technology RFP or other SMMP tasks. Is it realistic to think that these
companies will change course because of GDPR?
Iwamoto: By program size and by activity, people need
to do the math and do the financials as to whether going direct makes sense, or
should they license to a third party, an intermediary. Every company is going
to come to a different financial conclusion.
Chong: I respectfully disagree, if we are talking
about enterprisewide SMMP.
Iwamoto: I just went through it with a midsize client
where they wanted to go direct to the [technology] supplier, but when they did
the financials and the head-count resource allocation internally, they could
not get that approved. They [went] through a third-party partner.
Chong: I had the opposite. A client [told me
recently] they had not gone direct and their CFO is now insisting that they go
direct. I think any organization is going to be at risk if they don’t go
direct. How will they explain, if the third-party [mismanages the data or
mismanages the technology], that suddenly the end client corporation is getting
fined? So I disagree, I respectfully disagree.
Iwamoto: If that’s going to happen, then GDPR might
force more direct contracting with suppliers. But currently, it’s a matter of
head-count resource and budgets and financials that lead people to go through
the third party. If they do go that route, however, I foresee GDPR compliance
becoming part of the auditing process. We do audits all the time for different
components of travel and meetings, so I envision that this will become a
separate audit stream.
BTN: Will GDPR, then, force a shift in how meetings technology is priced or
tiered so it fits more types of end clients?
Chong: I don’t believe this is all because of
pricing. That’s just sort of a misnomer in the marketplace. We have clients
that might just need our systems for one program a year, and then we have
others who are doing 5,000 programs a year. They’re not paying the same thing.
Plus, the technology is priced based on usage. Corporations have to weigh the
cost of [the right technology and contracts] against the risk of being fined
for GDPR violation. Beyond the fine itself, think about public perception. If a
company gets fined, everyone is going to start looking and saying, “What else
did they do?”
BTN: What about corporate data, like booking patterns, hotels and
locations—
basically the RFP history? Is that corporate data ever sold to meetings
suppliers and would GDPR come into play here?
Chong: If I’m responsible for sourcing meetings and
I’ve set my profile and the sourcing technology is sharing my buying patterns
and my profile data in a dashboard to vendors in the marketplace, there is no
privity to take actions as you are not a party to the contract if your end user
is not aware and has not given the company permission to use the data in that
way. Practices and other behaviors that produce covert revenue streams will be
challenged in the world of GDPR. Overall, GDPR will help in all of our efforts
to further professionalize our industry and provide the visibility that it
deserves in terms of how meetings and events impact revenue generation and
corporate success rates overall.
BTN: Kevin, do you agree?
Iwamoto: I
do, but I also think we should underscore that this goes way beyond meetings
and affects how companies need to be looking at data governance overall and how
meetings fit into that. We know that the U.S. has some of the lowest data
privacy standards in the world. In Europe, data privacy is a right. GDPR is
pushing that issue on a global scale.