Venable transportation practice co-chair James Burnley talks:
- The good & bad of the reauthorization
- The case for making air traffic control a nonprofit
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Transportation priorities for the new U.S. president
In July, a bill funding the U.S. Federal Aviation
Administration through Sept. 30, 2017, became law. The reauthorization also
expanded the U.S. Transportation Security Administration's PreCheck program and
addressed consumer protections for lost luggage but did not include a provision
turning the nation's air traffic control system into a self-funding, nonprofit
entity. Former U.S. Secretary of Transportation James Burnley, who served during
the last years of the Reagan administration and co-chairs law firm Venable's transportation
practice, has been a longtime supporter
of the air traffic control provision and spoke with BTN transportation editor Michael B. Baker.
BTN: What are your
initial thoughts on the reauthorization terms?
Burnley: The best
news is that the extension is for as long as it is, 14 months. The last
go-round, Congress passed 23 short-term extensions before it was finally able
to pass a multiyear reauthorization bill. That is so disruptive, particularly
to the airport grants program; the ripple effect plays out at airports all over
America. Until there's a multiyear reauthorization bill, the FAA can't write
checks for more than the period of time for which it's authorized. It creates
an enormous workload for people administering the program, it creates
uncertainty and, for people managing the airport, it makes it impossible to get
longer-term grants. We've avoided all that. If we have to have an extension,
it's a good thing it's as long as it is.
BTN: Does that
cause noticeable effects for passengers?
Burnley: That
stop-start on the short-term extension basis basically does freeze a lot of
projects at airports, and it means the airports don't expand and modernize
facilities as they are planning to do. That has a very direct effect on
passengers. It's not one they're necessarily cognizant of, but it's real.
BTN: The reauthorization does not include the air
traffic control privatization proposal for which many lobbied and that would
remove the agency from Congress’ funding cycle. Will that still be a topic of
discussion going forward?
Burnley: First,
it's not privatization. It's a proposal to transfer the facilities to a
nonprofit corporation, which would still have federal representation on it, as
well as representation from all the key players in the aviation community. The
proposal is a solid one. Along with former [North Dakota] Sen. Byron Dorgan,
[I] co-chaired [The Eno Center for Transportation] think tank, and in the
spring of 2015, we put out a report that included both the detailed
descriptions of the systems around the world we think were good models, including
the Canadian system, and a statement of principles. We had every key player in
the aviation community almost without exception on our working group. [House
Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure chairman Bill] Shuster took our
statement of principles to heart, and his bill is constructed along the lines
we recommended.
We're trying to run a very complicated 24/7 enterprise under
the same rules that apply to federal grant programs in terms of the pay scale
and the procurement hurdles you have to go over. No one should be surprised
that you don't get great outcomes when you do it that way. The Canadian system
was set up in 1996 and, by all accounts, has done a great job of modernizing. Sadly,
because I want to see the U.S. do what it has done since the Wright brothers
and lead the world in aviation, in some ways, we're falling behind the
Canadians. I'd like to see us free up our very able folks who manage the air
traffic control system so they can do what needs to be done efficiently and at
the lowest possible cost.
BTN: Where are we
with the Next Generation Air Transportation System?
Burnley: It
continues as a set of procurements. The FAA is doing the best it can within the
constraints it has to deal with. The FAA right now has very strong leadership.
If you go to a nonprofit group, you can go to the bond markets, like virtually
every airport in America does routinely, and make long-term capital plans. You
can do the same thing with the air traffic control system, but you cannot do
that so long as it's a division of the FAA. The U.S. Treasury and [White House
Office of Management and Budget] go nuts if you even talk about that, and it's
against the law.
In the mid '80s, when I was at DOT and was the deputy
secretary to Elizabeth Dole, we spent a couple of years convincing Congress
that we should take National and Dulles airports, which at that time were a
department of the FAA, and transfer them to a regional authority. Congress at
first was very reluctant to give up control of the D.C. airports, but the
singular argument that convinced them was that those airports could then go to
the bond markets. If we hadn't been successful in convincing Congress of that,
Dulles' main terminal would be half the size it is today, and Reagan National
would still have as its main terminal what is now the A Concourse, the oldest
part of the facility.
BTN: Will the ATC
proposal be easier in a non-election year?
Burnley: Chairman
Shuster plans to try to move it forward next year. I don't think [the fact
that] it's an election year had anything to do with us not getting it done this
year. With the airports, which was a far smaller proposal, it still took us
over two years to educate and convince Congress it was a good idea. Chairman
Shuster just unveiled his proposal last winter, so it was no surprise to me it
might take longer than one session of Congress to go through the same
educational process and debate. There is a reasonable chance of getting this
done. It's not going to be easy. This day and age, getting any big idea through
Congress is not easy, but on the merits, it's compelling as a proposal. The
challenge those of us who support his efforts have is to educate and persuade
other members. It's not a partisan proposal at all. The closest we came to this
before was during the Clinton administration. At the beginning of his second
term, they had a proposal called the U.S. Air Traffic Service [Corporation Act],
which was a public nonprofit intended to do exactly what Shuster's proposal
does.
BTN: The FAA reauthorization
included PreCheck expansion. Is that a good idea?
Burnley: We have
to be sure we use every tool at our disposal, starting with PreCheck. You don't
want to do anything that compromises security, but there are ways like PreCheck
and now the Clear program. Anything of that sort that makes it easier for
people on the front lines to move people through the system and know they're
safe is a good idea. The current leadership at TSA has done an excellent job
this summer in addressing the snafus that were causing the horrible lines at
some of the airports. In the short term, it seems to have been addressed. If
the economy keeps growing, travel will keep growing, so you can't relax.
BTN: What about
the provision requiring refunds of checked bag fees for lost or late luggage
delivery?
Burnley: You have
to be very careful in that area. I'm a skeptic of anything that puts the
federal government back into the business of telling the airlines, on nonsafety
issues, how to do business. From my perspective, those provisions were not
necessary. The way they're written, the airlines will be able to live with
them, but if I were writing that bill, I would not have included them. We can
all find fault in specific instances, like when an airline loses your bag, but
when you take a step back, it's an amazing system, and it's remarkable we move
as many people with their luggage as successfully as we do everyday and at an incredibly
low cost overall. My mantra in this area is do no harm. If the government goes
far down that path, you'll find quickly that you're discouraging innovation.
BTN: Once we're
past the election, what should the new administration's transportation priorities
be?
Burnley: We still have countries with which we do not
have Open Skies agreements. I hope the next administration will push toward
Open Skies with those remaining countries.
We've continued to make progress to include the Japanese gradually, but
Open Skies agreements on the whole are a very healthy thing for our industry
and our travelers, and I'd like to see them become ubiquitous. It would be
great if the new administration enthusiastically embraced chairman Shuster's
proposal and participated in the debate and education process next year. The
administration of the FAA does not change with the change of administration
because he's on a five-year term. There will perhaps be a new [transportation]
secretary. If [Hillary] Clinton wins, [U.S. Secretary of Transportation Anthony]
Foxx could be asked to stay on, but assuming there's significant turnover, I
would hope the new leadership would take a look at Shuster's proposal early on.