AirPlus CEO Patrick Diemer talks:
- Making the T&E process seamless
- Mobile A.I.D.A. delays in the U.S.
-
Book
of business after the EU Interchange Fee Regulation
In 2016, AirPlus lost 127,000
corporate cardholders and €12 million in profit, and
it will register a €3 million loss in each of the next several years owing to
the European Union's Interchange Fee Regulation. But the payment provider is taking
steps to recuperate those losses. BTN payment and expense editor JoAnn DeLuna
spoke with CEO Patrick Diemer about launching in new markets and revving up its
application programming interface connections to make travel more seamless.
AirPlus also is pondering a related move into travel booking and expense
management.
BTN: AirPlus partners
with booking and expense providers and travel management companies to provide a
seamless booking, payment and expense experience. What's left now that you've
done this for air, rail, hotel and car rental, most recently with FCM
Travel Solutions in the U.S.?
Diemer: We are
working on restaurants. We'd like [travelers] to look at their smartphones and have
it show what's on their tab for the table, press a button for the tip, press
another button to pay and then leave.
BTN: MasterCard
is doing similar things on the consumer side.
Diemer: Yes,
there are some developments. OpenTable is experimenting with this in Los
Angeles. There are also a couple of apps in Europe. Business travel is on the
forefront of this because, at the end of the payment process in a restaurant,
the expense can be paper free. That convenience demand from travelers [is so
high] that it will drive adoption in business travel.
BTN: What else is
AirPlus doing to improve business travel payment?
Diemer: My
hypothesis is that there will be a new layer of service providers that will
integrate booking, payment and expense. This is happening with or without us, so
we're working on APIs for those programmers so they can integrate our payment
tools better than [they can integrate] our competitors' payment tools. The
other question is [whether] this development means that we would need to become
a booking or expense provider ourselves. We haven't answered that question yet,
but we're looking into it this year.
BTN: AirPlus'
Mobile A.I.D.A. virtual payment solution is set to launch this year in the U.S.
How is that coming along, and why has it taken so long?
Diemer: [The
delay] hasn't been because of the product but because of our status as a financial
institution. In Europe, we have a payment institution license that [allows us
to function] like a bank solely for payment services but without [providing
credit] to corporates. This regulatory category doesn't exist in the U.S. [Here]
you have to be a bank.
BTN: Will AirPlus
become a bank then?
Diemer: We
questioned whether we should become a MasterCard issuer in our own right in the
U.S. or [if we should] partner with a MasterCard issuing bank. We didn't want
to go through the capital and regulatory regime to become a bank, so we chose
the second option, with Regions Bank in Birmingham, Alabama. It's taken a while
for us to technically implement the A.I.D.A. product in the U.S. It's going to
be the same product we issue in all other countries, as that is what our global
customers require, one process.
Blockchain's Chances in the Credit Card Industry
"We saw blockchain as a potential threat, a
new competitor coming in and facilitating payment, but we also saw it as an
opportunity because we have 49,000 corporate customers" to whom to sell, said
AirPlus CEO Patrick Diemer. The issue is there's nothing to sell so far, no
blockchain-based product that solves a payments problem, he said. Diemer doubts
the payoff for the credit card industry in switching to blockchain, even
considering the technology's ability to reduce fraud. The industry's fraud
prevention system "is already a very computerized and industrialized
process," he said. So even though blockchain could reduce fraud a bit, he
doesn't see a cost advantage significant enough to inspire the industry to
change its process.
BTN: How has the
U.S. market played out for AirPlus, considering U.S. companies don't use lodge
cards as much as European ones do?
Diemer: Globally,
AirPlus is probably No. 3 based on [payment volume]. In the U.S., we're at the
end of the food chain because of the regulatory environment. A.I.D.A. is a key
development that has taken some time to get going, which meant we didn't have
the same product setup that our competitors have in the U.S. We were not the
first in the market, and we therefore are a small player.
BTN: Is the U.S.
market a priority?
Diemer: The U.S.
is a pretty developed market with a lot of competitors, and rebates play an
important role in the U.S. market. Our priority for market development is
really Asia/Pacific because there's so much more business there for us today.
We have a number of other Asia/Pacific countries like Indonesia and Thailand to
be launched later this year. We're also launching the Company Account product in
Japan and forming a subsidiary in Brazil.
BTN: Does that
mean you're going to scale back on your U.S. presence?
Diemer: No, we're
not cutting back our U.S. presence. We're going to increase it, but the speed
is going to be modest.
BTN: Last year
was tough. Can you walk me through the losses that
resulted from the EU Interchange Fee Regulation?
Patrick Diemer:
The regulation had a one-time [loss] effect of €9
million because we had to migrate the portfolio and reissue all of our cards.
Then there's the ongoing €3 million loss that
will carry on. We had to give our customers a choice between paying a
significant price increase for the type of corporate card they were using or
changing to corporate liability. Given that choice, 22 percent [of clients]
decided to no longer use corporate cards, which were predominantly cards that
were not used frequently. That's where we see the permanent negative effect
coming from.
BTN: In this new
regulatory environment, I can see the opportunity for alternative forms of
payment for infrequent travelers.
Diemer: Yes. We
see a lot of customers pushing more onto the lodge account. We were quite
afraid that customers were turning their backs on AirPlus or the product
category, but that's not the case. Even customers who don't use a physical
piece of plastic anymore continue to use a lodge card or a virtual central bill
account. If travelers have to pay for something outside of car rental, air or
hotel, like a restaurant, then they're asked to use personal cards and be reimbursed
through the expense management systems.
BTN: How has 2017
been for AirPlus so far?
Diemer:
Business is doing very well this year. [Year over year for the first five
months of 2017, we saw] a 6 percent increase in global issuing volume, which is
our key performance indicator. We [saw] more than 9 percent volume growth for
our lodge account [product] and 31 percent growth for our A.I.D.A. virtual card
product.